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President Duda says Poland is supporting Turkey's accession to the EU.
Looking at Poland's Ottoman past and its present anti-pathy for Moslem Refugees, this is astonishing. It seems that the Poles want to work with everyone who doesn't like Germany. I am still looking forward to the budgetary consultations where the Pole will get much less of our taxpayers sums.
That is only Poland, infantile ill-mannered, clinging to an abominable and anti-democratic regimes only to be fortunately to the opposite. It is my assumption that Poland will also commit Turkey by taking a few hundred thousand fugitives from its clutches? Poland has not simply brought a thousand Catholics to the "Rosary at the Border" to remember October 7th, which incidentally is the feast of Our Lady of the Rosary, a feast on which Christians celebrate the Ottoman Turks' failure at the Battle of Lepanto in 1571.
It' s essentially an anti-Muslim theme tag at the frontier. Someday give a Muslim guide the full royal treat and then ignore the eyes as the good Catholic Christians of Poland knock the live coal out of some unfortunate Muslim tourists. Poles who join an abominable and anti-democratic regimen?
Thought Poland and Brussels didn't get along well right now? First, you have to know something about the story before you publish some mischief. Poles and the Ottoman Empire waged many battles, among them the battles at Vienna in 1683, which were crucial for Europe's long past, where the troops under the leadership of the King of Poland, Jan III Sobieski, destroyed Turkey's dream of Europe.
However, both nations mutually respect each other up to the point where Turkey, as the only nation in the whole word, when Prussia, Russia and Austria marched into Poland and partitioned Poland among themselves, never acknowledged that Poland no longer existed. However, sorry - this is not about Germany this year, but about a plain and evident fact that Turkey is crucial for the security of both the EU and NATO.
There are only two questions: i) Do you favour it if Turkey - with the second biggest NATO force - is on your side or on the side of the EU's opponents? ii) Why did Merkel decide on her own to lately make millions of euro payments to Turkey? In spite of all our disparities, each country and each person respects the other.
Poland, and the vast majority in Poland's Catholic community, have nothing against Moslem Turkey. In addition, it mirrors Poland's attitude towards the refugee population - they should be assisted to find their way around their home countries, especially in a similar culture where they find themselves at ease and will have no difficulty following their religion/customs or struggling with racial discrimination.
Poland is currently one of the largest contributors of this type of aid to displaced persons from Near East conflict areas. After what I saw recently, Pis determines what Poland is, everything according to the way the winds blow. What today is story, today is destiny, so on. Regarding your remark that Poland is part of the "civilized world", ahem!!!
And, incidentally, as far as Poland's past is concerned, while we are talking here, the authorities are not transcribing the historical textbooks for school, making all the evil things go away... gestern ist der Held der Verräter von heute... This kind of thing. However, 90% of Poles do not support Turkey in the EU. The relationship between Poland, the Ottomans and Turkey was not always the same.
Up to the 13th millennium, Poland, as well as other middle, middle and south-eastern Europeans fought with the Ottomans, and thanks to the support of the Poles, Vienna/Austria did not belong to the Ottoman forces (if the Poles were a week later, Vienna/Austria would fall). It was the only one in Europe in the 13th centuries not to recognise the division of Poland by Russia, Prussia and Austria.
Historical link in Poland. This " top-class bronze " talks about Paria-Poland when the Paria's clubs grow: Show Austria. All this strengthens Poland and keeps promoting its own interests. It would be a welcome complement to the EU as a counterweight to Germany and in line with Poland's interest in Ukraine's accession to the EU in the near term for exactly the same reasons.
Poland has a long tradition of 600 years of unbroken ties with Turkey and the former Ottoman Empire, which includes the triumph in Vienna. Turkey, too, never agreed to the division of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and kept the headquarters of the ambassador open for all these years.
Unknown in the field of foreign diplomacy. Indeed, Poland sends help to those in need in Moslem states. However, the liberals and neoconservatives have infested all Roman-Catholic countries. Stupidity on the part of the President of Poland. I write about historic facts, not "political history". When you are so sensible towards those who rewrite politics, first turn to Germany, which is really well along the way.
In France, for example, you can find out how effectively this new writing of the story is. Just as during the Second World War in the German occupation, one could see the sign "Only for Germans" and not "Only for Na2is" - so it seems that in the German occupation it must have been a terrible discomfort for Naz2is to get into cafés, movie theaters, trams and busses reserved for Germans.
I am not talking about the entry to Auschwitz motto'Arbeit macht frei' or ' work makes free' - I assume it is a Na2i not Na2i slang ?!? It also reminds us of the gravest spirits in Europe's history: those who went straight to the most dark times in its existence - horrific violations of fundamental freedoms, acts of terrorism, acts of terrorism and devastation.
Then you have really nonsensical commentary on it - sorry Tony: - "and her present aversion towards Moslem fugitives seems to be a surprise testimony. Firstly, Poland has taken in, taken in and nourished tens of thousand of Muslim fugitives - for example, those from Chechnya during the Chechen conflict, and Poland is also taking in ALL fugitives in full accordance with EU law in force, namely the Dublin regime.
However, for various causes - they can be experienced in Western Europe (terrorism, increasing criminality, female sex abuse, no-go zones) - Poland is not interested in opening frontiers to migrant economists with an unproven past, which would cause serious societal difficulties, as it regards the security of Poles as its top priorities.
But, as always, Poland is an open land for all who are willing to obey the fundamental laws and norms of Poland - for example, in recent years Poland has welcomed about 2 million Ukrainian fugitives and migrants who are at risk of conflict with Russia. Lastly, what sentiments, if any, do Muslims have with the relationship between Poland and Turkey (allies in the NATO Covenant, by the way)?
It seems as if the heads of state and government of Poland are preferring Turkey to the EU. What about Poland's withdrawal from the EU and accession to Turkey? Turkey's Kurds seem to be quite fortunate under Ankara. It is Poland's allies in NATO (as well as France, Germany, Belgium, Norway or Denmark's allies, etc.). I' d say Poland did well.
Reaffirming that they support Turkey's offer, they just explain EU policies in general. Maybe Poles don't like it when they say it, not Markel. There is no way to alienate Turkey in view of the enormous representation of the Turks in the EU Member States, but the EU must work with it because it is already working in so many areas, and Poland has turned to Turkey, which is a good and kind move and a move that both Turkey and the EU need at this moment.
So, please do not put the guilt on Poland for trying to get Turkey and Europe together. Perhaps Erdogan was the only leader who wanted to see Duda? Perhaps Duda wants to draw from Erdogan's experience with the constitutional state and his outspoken support for it? They address the question of an interesting historical relation, although Poland's support from Turkey was certainly primarily aimed at ensuring that Russia did not overasserts itself by purchasing too much land.
Poland's story is often dramatic and needs to be emphasized and explained why some still want repairs. Not sure if I am in agreement with you that the Poles do not want to receive Moslem immigrants, because they do not want to make them uneasy in the West. Do I have a number of Poles who are very hostile to Moslems, although perhaps those from the Middle East are seen differently from those from the Chechen Republic and, above all, those from third countries who are not necessarily real fugitives?
In short, most Poles do not like the way of living and all the effects of the massive migratory flows that Western Europe is experiencing today. Poles will therefore refuse to tolerate anything (forced resettlement, random opening of frontiers, etc.), which would radically alter the way of living and culture in Poland or parts of Poland (i.e. no-go zones), even more so than in Western Europe.
At the same time: - thousand of Poles spent vacations or vacations in Muslim lands - Egypt, Tunisia, Turkey, etc. - and enjoy it, - long before occidental companies learnt words like "tolerance" and "multicultural society", Poland had a Muslim minorities, which since the XV centuries left Poland continually - namely Tatars, who were free to practise their religions, were always respectful of Poland's community, also because they were very Patriotic towards Poland.
Mr Selim Chazbijewicz was named Poland's embassador to Kazakhstan. Now, tell me - which of the most advanced, open and open West have Muslim embassies and what about the oilliberal Poland that doesn't like Mulims? Thus, perhaps it may allow you to realize that this fear is not about Muslims or Muslims themselves, as long as they are living or respecting in Muslim lands and do not threat to alter political traditions, habits and cultures.
The point is that the Poles do not like to accept enforced changes in Poland's way of living and culture. Poles are decidedly against taking shelters from the Muslim country and doing deals with one. In short, most Poles do not like the way of living and all the effects of the massive migratory flows that Western Europe is experiencing today.
Poles will therefore refuse to tolerate anything (forced resettlement, random opening of frontiers, etc.), which would radically alter the way of living and culture in Poland or parts of Poland (i.e. in no-nine zones), even more so than in West Europe. At the same time: - thousand of Poles spent or spent vacations in Muslim lands - Egypt, Tunisia, Turkey, etc. - and enjoy it, - long before occidental companies learnt words like "tolerance" and "multicultural society", Poland had a Muslim minorities, which since the XV centuries left Poland continually - namely Tatars, who were free to practise their religions, were always respectable by Poland's community, also because they tend to be very patriotic to Poland.
Mr Selim Chazbijewicz was named Poland's embassador to Kazakhstan. Now, tell me - which of the most advanced, open and open West have Muslim embassies and what about the oilliberal Poland that doesn't like Mulims? Thus it may perhaps allow you to realise that this fear is not about mu2lims oder í2lam itself as long as they are living or respecting in Muslim lands and do not threat to alter political traditions, habits and cultures.
The point is that the Poles do not like to accept enforced changes in Poland's way of living and culture. In the last 2 - 3 years Poland has strongly promoted Turkey's accession to the EU. In the last review, 80% of the Poles backed Turkey's EU accession, while 20% of Germans would like to see Turkey in the EU.
In the last ten years Poland has welcomed 100 000 Moslem migrants. The majority of them have opted against the EU regulation that asylum seekers must remain in the EU for the first time, continue to move westwards and establish themselves. By adopting the principle of quotas, the Poles would be obliged to keep fugitives in Poland by force and prevent them from going where they want.
Recall the fugitives who put their life at risk by sailing across the ocean to achieve the comparative wealth of the West African states. This we have already seen in Hungary, at Keleti railway in Budapest, where the Hungarians tried to stop the fugitives from getting on board to Austria and Germany.
Indeed, the aim of the transfer politics is to conceal the fact that it is not the Eastern Europeans who are most hostile to immigration, but the Western Europeans who would like to hold the Poles and Hungarians responsible for their own vice, as we see in the above articles and in the commentaries.